29 comments on BOE meeting filled with anger over mask mandate, superintendent contract

BOE meeting filled with anger over mask mandate, superintendent contract

By Richard Sullins | richard@rantnc.com

Republican Sandra Bowen and Democrat Christine Hilliard were re-elected as chair and vice chair at the Lee County Board of Education’s final meeting of 2021 on Tuesday. But if you thought this meeting was about toasting the year’s achievements with egg nog and cookies, you’d be mistaken.

As soon as the election of officers was over and the public comment period began, the board and its superintendent, Dr. Andy Bryan, came under a relentless barrage of attacks, even from within its own ranks. And it seemed almost every issue brought with it another round of contention.

Alan Rummel, a Republican who has declared plans on social to seek a seat on the board in 2022, questioned a decision from last month to renew Bryan’s contract through June 2024. He quoted a board policy requiring votes on the superintendent’s contract to be taken in open session and asked why the vote was done during the closed portion of the meeting.

In fact, the board did vote by a 5-1 margin in open session after coming out of their closed session at the end of the November 9 meeting to extend Bryan’s contract without any changes to his salary or other terms and conditions.

Rummel also claimed during Bryan’s tenure, Lee County Schools’ performance had dropped from above average to the bottom third of schools in the state and called the superintendent’s performance “less than mediocre.” He said because the board hadn’t shared information with the public about Bryan’s performance, “it leads the public to believe that some shady business is going on.”

Bryan’s performance was also called into question by Lee GOP Chairman Jim Womack, who asked “is it any wonder that all three of our middle schools and both traditional high schools are nationally ranked as ‘below average’ according to Zillow.com? Yet, there you were, one month ago, extending this Superintendent’s contract for two plus years with not one shred of objective justification.”

Attacks on the board didn’t stop there.

Lisa Ragan of Sanford said “the people don’t have to accept whatever comes down from the State Board or the teacher’s union” and called board members “a disappointment.”

Chad Stall expressed anger over the district’s continued masking mandate, comparing it to “sensory deprivation” and “speech restrictions.”

“If this is not about control and dominance,” he said, “then why on earth would a board member have the authority or the position to vote to practice their own habits on the lives of 7-year-olds or 12-year-olds? I cannot believe that in a county, such as Lee County, a group of adults would knowingly aid and abet a person who lives that kind of lifestyle and grant them authority and access to your children. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.”

The only Chad Stall registered to vote in North Carolina lives in Wake County.

Womack rips superintendent’s contract extension

As the meeting got down to scheduled business, Republican board member Sherry Lynn Womack, wife of the county Republican chairman, sought to add an item to the agenda – a discussion and review of Bryan’s contract extension. She was not present in November when the contract was extended.

Her motion to add the item to the agenda failed by a 3-4 margin. But when the time for member comments came at the end of the public portion of the meeting, Womack unloaded about what she viewed as violations of the board’s own policies.

One item she questioned was on the November 9 agenda as “Superintendent’s Informal Evaluation,” which was to be discussed during the closed session. Board Policy 7805 does provide for an informal evaluation process designed to “foster trust and communication.”

The policy provides the informal evaluation is to take place in December, and it wasn’t clear why the board chose to move it to November for this year. A review of agendas for Decembers past shows that unspecified “personnel” items were discussed in the final month of those previous years, but a “Superintendent’s Informal Evaluation” has not appeared on an agenda since December 2015.

Efforts to reach Board Chair Bowen and Board Attorney Stephen Rawson for clarification were unsuccessful as of press time.

Mask mandate extended, Womack calls for end to contact tracing

The board again extended its mask mandate by another month – probably a given, with COVID numbers continuing to rise in Lee and 91 other North Carolina counties.

District Nurse Supervisor Mary Hawley Oates reported the total number of positive COVID cases since the pandemic began in March 2020 has now reached 9,870 and will almost certainly top 10,000 before Christmas.

Womack offered a motion for the district to immediately end contact tracing and give that duty over to the Lee County Health Department unless there are two or more positive cases identified that come from same class, bus, or athletic event; and that staff need not quarantine unless there is a positive test.

The motion to end contact tracing failed 2-5.

Board member Patrick Kelly said he’d come to the meeting with hopes he could move to end the mandate, but cited rising numbers as a reason he didn’t think that possible. Hilliard then moved that the mandate be continued until January.

That didn’t sit well with Womack.

“This is a disservice to our children,” she said. “We are going to continue to see our numbers go down in schools. We are going to continue to see violence. We are going to continue to see suicide and depression until somebody decides to wake up. I’m sick and tired of the politics. It’s time that we started standing up for our children.”

The motion to keep the mandate in place for another month passed 5-2.

Full video of the meeting is available here.

29 responses to “BOE meeting filled with anger over mask mandate, superintendent contract”

  1. Anyone else curious as to why it took 2 days to report on this from any news/social sites?

  2. Honestly, stop going to these meetings. They don’t listen or care about anything the people have to say. They are going to do whatever they want. The only thing that can be done is vote all of them out of office. How stupid is it that we have one of the lowest rankings in a state that is one of the lowest ranked states for education and we keep these idiots in office and keep the same superintendent. Lee County deserves what it votes for.

  3. The Womacks must go. Their brand of vitriol is a cancer in Lee county. Our county deserves better.

    1. Perhaps some facts to back it up?

      Making the claim someone is cruel and bitter without ANYTHING to back it up beyond your own biases.

      Don’t like them, I get that Just a few words of advice, if you come after someone character, especially elected officials, you should be able toback it up.

    2. Tired of Carpetbaggers Avatar
      Tired of Carpetbaggers

      Don’t they have a tank they can ride back to Texas or something?

      1. Tired of Stupid People Avatar
        Tired of Stupid People

        HISTORICAL
        (in the US) a person from the northern states who went to the South after the Civil War to profit from the Reconstruction.
        You should know the historical context of terms you use. Considering the Womacks are not from the north. Then again, clearly you are a product of the lee county education system and probably have no concept of the terms you use. So thank you for proving the point that Lee County has a serious education problem and it won’t be solved anytime soon.

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        car·​pet·​bag·​ger | \ ˈkär-pət-ˌba-gər \
        plural carpetbaggers
        Definition of carpetbagger
        1disapproving : a Northerner in the South after the American Civil War usually seeking private gain under the Reconstruction governments
        2disapproving : OUTSIDER
        especially : a nonresident or new resident who seeks private gain from an area often by meddling in its business or politics

      3. Are all Womack supports so badly educated that they understand only a few words and only one meaning of a word or phrase? Please leave

    3. Well said Mike,our county does deserve better

  4. […] were one of the only relatively non-controversial items on the agenda in what was an otherwise largely contentious meeting of the school board Tuesday […]

  5. I encourage EVERYONE to actually watch the VDO, The audio is terrible, however this ,article is out of context..

    Mr. Richard Sullins partialiality and prejudice, is just too obvious.

    A career lobbyist, former Executive director of the State Board of Community Colleges (NC)

    When a current board member sits as the Assistant Director, Student Outreach & Work Based Learning @ CCCC.

    One that, I may add, has been called into question in recent months, for his own “extra” curricular activities.

    1. Did his “extra” curricular activities include being a seditionist traitor who tried to overthrow a democratically elected President or the United States on Jan 6 2021 or no?

      1. Not that I recall, and Noether did mine

        Nice try

  6. Mr. Sullins’ coverage of the Board proceedings has been refreshingly objective and fact-based. His citations from the meeting are near verbatim from the statements that were made. One might disagree with his focus or emphasis on certain topics in the meeting, but he correctly captured the outrage being expressed in public comments and by Board members present. Our school system is failing by virtually every objective measure. Extending the Superintendent’s contract for two more years has condemned Lee County schools to remain in its academic tailspin for that much longer. Continuing to suffocate our children in masks for another month or so – while Moore and Harnett Counties have already abandoned that practice – is indefensible. Lee County citizens are starting to realize the only thing holding this county back is our poorly run K-12 Public Education system. I am confident voters will express that sentiment at the polls next November and again in November 2024.

    1. Seems your toady Mr. Grimes didn’t read the talking points regarding Mr. Sullins’ coverage of this event. Please council him regarding this failure to follow protocol though I’d as you not to make a “federal” case out of it..

      1. I agree Jim, just slightly out of context.
        That’s all

    2. I just hope they vote out both Womack’s.

      1. I remember when Republicans were respectable, sober, and people of mostly common sense. Of course those were Republicans from NC not the far western United States.

        I wish people would go to the places that birthed them to self-actualize instead of moving around looking for an opportunity.

    3. Sorry Coach I thought the rant was bad!!

    4. Mr Womack is definitely not part of the woke crowd
      file:///var/mobile/Library/SMS/Attachments/68/08/EBD02322-46B2-4BA6-9C91-F146250B9A07/937139266137852577.heic

      1. Al Cohol – You say “woke” like it’s a bad thing. Always funny when republicans try to denigrate something that is good, by using the term while trying to be sarcastic.

        Woke Definition from Merriam Webster:
        chiefly US slang

        aware of and actively attentive to important facts and issues (especially issues of racial and social justice)

        “We have a moral obligation to “stay woke,” take a stand and be active; challenging injustices and racism in our communities and fighting hatred and discrimination wherever it rises.” – Barbara Lee

      2. Mike, sorry wasn’t trying to say woke was a bad thing, just my link to photo of Mr Womack asleep at Board meeting the other night doesn’t work in comment section That’s how woke he is in his issues. I’m with you they’ve got to go.

      3. Al – It’s all good. I’m sure many still need to see the definition of “Woke”.

  7. Alan Rummel, a Republican quoted a board policy requiring votes on the superintendent’s contract to be taken in open session and asked why the vote was done during the closed portion of the meeting.
    In fact, the board did vote by a 5-1 margin in open session after coming out of their closed session at the end of the November 9 meeting.
    So Alan Rummel is either a liar or incapable of getting his facts straight, again typical of his lot & certainly shouldn’t be trusted by the voting public.

    Chad Stall expressed anger over the district’s continued masking mandate, comparing it to “sensory deprivation” and “speech restrictions.”
    The only Chad Stall registered to vote in North Carolina lives in Wake County.
    We can only hope Mr. Stall can make the journey from Raleigh to opine on issues related to the Lee County School system, please attempt to pin down his residency during his next visit.

    “Republican board member Sherry Lynn Womack, wife of the county Republican chairman, sought to add an item to the agenda – a discussion and review of Bryan’s contract extension. She was not present in November when the contract was extended.”
    So Sherry Womack couldn’t be bothered to even attend a regularly scheduled meeting but now complains about normal business conducted in her absence, rich indeed.

    Just posting the Republican contributions for ease of reading, is this really who we are & what we want representing Lee County now or in the future?

    1. Vote for the superintendent’s contract was not done by policy because it was not even on the agenda. Mr. Alan Rummel’s concerns are valid. One must consider he is fairly new and not yet accustomed to the way Lee County School board consistently does not abide by its own policies… sneaking in the CONTRACT VOTE AFTER open session was closed & The board moved into closed session to discuss the INFORMAL PERFORMANCE EVALUATION of the superintendent which WAS on the agenda. It does not appear that they took into account in his evaluation the lawsuit Andy Brian LOST TWICE and HID from the school board which cost Lee County Schools hundreds of thousands of dollars for failing to teach a child in the public school system.
      Mrs. Womack’s attendance at meetings is near perfect and her motion to add an item to discuss the superintendent’s contract was her due diligence to the citizens of Lee County and is to be applauded amongst the board consisting of (imo) traitors to the public schools and citizens of Lee County.

  8. I realize that you can not talk to wing nuts but I will make the attempt for those of you who can think.

    I see the Womack’s think you can compare Lee County with Moore County. https://nces.ed.gov/Programs/Edge/ACSDashboard/3703090

    Lee County

    58 % White Kids
    20 % Black Kids
    19 % Hispanic Kids
    1 % Asian Kids
    Average Household Income $49K
    Single Parent Families – 32%
    47% of Parents with no College

    Moore County

    77% White Kids
    12% Black Kids
    7 % Hispanic Kids
    1 % Asian Kids
    Average Household Income $59K
    Single Parent Families 31%
    27% of Parents with no College

    Apples like Grannysmith, Red Delicious, Gala, etc. can be easily compared. Comparing Apples to Cantelopes, or Watermelons, or Raspberries is difficult.

    The funny thing about local education in the United States is that it is difficult to create high achievement without starting with the kids who come from families with more economic, education, and time resources. Why don’t we compare Lee County to Hoke County, Robeson County, Northampton County, and see how we come out instead of making comparisons between a blue-collar industrial community and Resort communities like Pinehurst, SP, Aberdeen, or RTP spillover communities like Northern Harnett County?

    If Lee County is really doing poorly compared to its peers that’s one thing, but Moore, Harnett, Chatham, Orange, and Wake County are not peers of Lee County.

    Find some more apples before you start crucifying the next set of folks who are not reactionary morons.

  9. Here are a few near-peers of Lee County in NC:

    Person County
    Hoke County
    Nash County

    Take the time to do some real research and then get back to us.

  10. Why don’t we compare Lee County to Hoke County, Robeson County, Northampton County,

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    I actually look such scanners for our company. Your blog provided us with important information to work with. The only Chad Stall registered to vote in North Carolina lives in Wake County. Womack rips superintendent’s contract extension.

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