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Flooding fears become reality for homes near subdivision construction site

A photo submitted by Wellington Drive resident James McCarthy shows extensive flooding behind his home after a heavy storm on May 14 that lasted approximately one hour. McCarthy and neighbors contend the flooding is a result of the clearing of land nearby to make way for the Glen at Cool Springs subdivision.

Quick, strong storm on May 14 led to previously unseen flooding for homes in Westlake Downs community, neighboring new Glen at Cool Springs construction

By Billy Liggett | billy@rantnc.com

When residents of the Westlake Downs community in west Sanford first voiced their opposition in November 2020 over plans for a neighboring community of 131 homes on just 51 acres, their biggest concern was the “high density” nature of the designs — the Glen at Cool Springs, they said, was “out of character” — built cheaper and more stacked together compared to their existing homes.

Further down the list of complaints were drainage and flooding concerns and a perceived disregard to environmental studies on stormwater management.

Fifteen months after the Sanford City Council approved construction of the community despite resident objections and a unanimous vote by the Sanford Planning Commission recommending they reject the plans, residents along the north side of Wellington Drive have launched an investigation into the cause of recent severe flooding at multiple homes and a neighborhood playground along the construction site.

Heavy rainfall that lasted approximately one hour on May 14 led to waist-high flooding in James and Pamela McCarthy’s backyard, and had they not risked injury that day to remove sticks and other debris from an adjoining drainage pipe, things could have been worse, they say. The McCarthys are adamant the flooding was a result of land grading and the clearing of 51 acres worth of trees behind their home, and as of this writing, they have not been in contact with contractors or the landowners.

“There’s a lot of growth going on in Sanford, and we understand that and our concerns at the beginning of all of this were represented quite eloquently,” McCarthy said. “So we’re not against the growth, but if you’re going to do the work back here, how about you make sure that the planning is all properly handled? Make sure this type of situation does get to this point in the first place. That’s really our issue at this point.”

The Glen at Cool Springs is one of several new subdivisions either in the early construction or planning phases in what’s becoming a “population boom” unseen in Sanford in decades. In all, there are roughly 6,000 single-family home lots either being built or under some level of review locally.

On Jan. 19, 2021, the Sanford City Council annexed 53 acres of land off Cool Springs Road between Westlake Downs and Southern Road for the Glen at Cool Springs after a zoning request was submitted by developer Dan Koeller of North Carolina-based Atlantic Coast Land Development. The north end of the subdivision will run alongside Southern Road, which features a handful of homes, each situated on several acres of land. The southern end of the Glen will run parallel to Westlake Downs, whose homes currently run anywhere between $400,000 and $800,000, according to current market estimates.

James McCarthy (right) and his wife Pamela talk with Westlake Downs residents Tom Wilder and Derek Borrell on their back deck, a week after their backyard experienced severe flooding after a May 14 storm. The group claims the flooding is the result of poor drainage management at the construction site of the nearby Glen at Cool Springs subdivision.

The first community meeting on the proposed annexation and zoning was held on Nov. 19, 2020, with 26 people in attendance to voice their opposition. Among their concerns: increased traffic for those “cutting through” Westlake Downs and the adjoining Brownstone subdivision, the possible decrease in surrounding property values, the perceived lack of cohesive design with surrounding communities, the absence of a buffer between the properties and whether or not existing sewage lines could handle an additional 131 new homes, and finally, draining/flooding issues that could be created or made worse by the development.

Despite objections — citing the aforementioned concerns — by the Sanford Planning Board, made up of citizens appointed by the city council, the city voted 5-2 to approve the plans, calling them “reasonable and in the public interest” as a “large-scale single-family development that is walkable with a high degree of transportation between neighborhoods.”

In a May 20 letter to the Westlake Downs Homeowners Association, McCarthy officially called on the HOA to investigate the flooding behind his and his neighbors’ homes, as well as the vacant lot west of his and the adjoining playground on Wellington Drive. In the letter, McCarthy described the hour of panic as he and his family worked to prevent the water from reaching his back door (a rock-lined creek bed runs across his backyard, under a small footbridge).

“The main culvert/storm drain next to our property became completely blocked with a large log, broken branches and other loose debris from the site causing overflow and flooding,” McCarthy wrote. “At the risk of our own lives, we (three family members and I) had to go out and try to remove the blockage in rushing waist-deep water as there wasn’t time to call for help from the city. … The area behind our homes was not designed to handle that much runoff. The current drainage was approved and put in place all the way back in the 1980s, so it clearly needs to be updated or rebuilt and addressed.”

McCarthy asked the HOA to provide recommendations to the state environmental office to “rectify the situation.”

Tom Wilder, a longtime Westlake Downs resident who led the original petition calling for changes in the subdivisions plans in 2020 and 2021, said the May 14 storm gave the residents a sense of urgency regarding the need for immediate flood controls until permanent stormwater controls are put in place.

“Since their controls are complex — with three environmental holding ponds to be built, pipe and drain installation and extensive use of retaining walls — that might take quite a while to complete,” Wilder told The Rant. “Right now, we are concerned about all rain events while no protective measures are in place.”

Wilder called current conditions — stripped land, downed trees and no protective measures in place — a “worst case scenario” for extreme flooding.

Derek Borrell, McCarthy’s neighbor to the east, also saw worse-than-usual flooding in his backyard on May 14 (though nothing that approached his home). He noted that the color of the runoff — a light brown — was the color of the exposed soil at the new subdivision site.  He said in his 12-plus years as a Westlake Downs homeowner, he’s never seen flooding like May 14 — again, from a strong storm that barely lasted an hour.

“The last time we had anything even close was Hurricane Matthew,” he said, and that was a slow-moving storm that dumped more than seven inches of rain in Lee County over several hours.

The view from the McCarthys’ backyard on Wellington Drive. What used to be thick forest is now 51 acres of cleared land for the Glen at Cool Springs subdivision. Runoff from the land exceeded their creek bed after a May 14 storm.

The Rant reached out to Taylor Morrison Homes, Iron Horse Contractors and Eco Turf Inc., as well as Koeller and Atlantic Coach Land Development for comment for this story, and only Taylor Morrison responded with a statement:

“Taylor Morrison is developing Glen at Cool Springs in general conformance with approved Construction Drawing plans,” the statement read. “We have made land development personnel available to address questions and concerns from neighboring property owners and have not heard of any recent flooding concerns from them. We remain committed to being a respectful neighbor to Westlake Downs.”

McCarthy said all he’s asking for from the builders and contractors is full transparency. In addition to the flooding problem, Westlake residents have endured several “dynamite blasts” on the land that have shaken their foundations. On May 24, smoke from burning trees made its way to several homes, causing another nuisance.

Wilder and McCarthy reiterated that the community has accepted the subdivision is happening and there’s no stopping its progress. But he, too, is asking for transparency and giving a warning to other communities certain to see new nearby construction in the coming months and years.

“Progress is progress, but they need to take their neighbors into consideration, update their plans accordingly and fix these problems,” McCarthy said. “That’s all you can ask at this point.”

17 responses to “Flooding fears become reality for homes near subdivision construction site”

  1. Marshall Wilensky Avatar
    Marshall Wilensky

    My wife and I strongly empathize with the residents of Westlake Downs. We and our neighbors in Autumnwood, just down Cool Springs Road, have similar concerns because of the clear-cutting that took place between Valley Road and Streamside Drive (for West Pointe at Autumnwood) and the likelihood of further clear-cutting as the rest of the master plan is executed. There’s a surveyor working today!

    I haven’t personally seen anyone on site who is “in charge” but some of my neighbors told me of receiving similar boiler plate answers to their concerns just like the statement from Taylor Morrison Homes.

    I wonder:

    Do they take down ALL the trees because they’re profiting from the lumber? (Kickbacks?)

    Do the environmental studies take into consideration the wildlife (deer, frogs, birds, …) that are affected by the monumental changes to their habitat? Besides the way water will flow, do they consider the loss of water held by the trees and other plants?

    Why hasn’t the latest developer, ExperienceOne Homes, even bothered to updated their website with information about the project?

    1. JAMES A MCCARTHY SR Avatar
      JAMES A MCCARTHY SR

      I think you may get a lot of lip service once things get approved. Sure, they all say they want to hear what you have to say but that’s just to check off a box. For us, the city planners unanimously voted against the development as was designed (almost 3 homes to our developments 1) for several reasons including environmental considerations but the City Council decided to approve it anyway so now we are just trying to get someone who can address our issues but that is proving rather difficult as was noted in the article.

      1. Professional Advice Given If Requested Avatar
        Professional Advice Given If Requested

        Patterson Creek is your issue.

        Patterson Creek starts near the intersection of Wicker Street and South Franklin Drive, near the Middle School.

        A number of developments upstream of Buckingham put a ton of runoff water into Patterson before the small stem near you empties into the main stem.

        Water in the main stem backs up drainage in the feeder stems.

        Is Patterson Creek clear to the Deep River? Maybe someone should check? The landforms in that area are full of brownstone and hard saprolite and when you look at the FEMA flood map you see a number of natural choke points from Wickers Street all the way to NC 421.

    2. Of course they clearcut to sell the lumber. And, to my knowledge, there aren’t any ‘environmental studies’ — not any real ones anyway. Look up the City’s water quality issues. Big Buffalo Creek has been on the critical list for many YEARS, yet the City continues to make decisions that guarantee further destruction. There’s no one to slap their hand. NC seems to be on the same page with Growth and Money trumping Conservation, Preservation, Quality of Life, and Common Sense.

  2. Gives Free Advice Avatar
    Gives Free Advice

    Also, only 31 acres drains toward the back of Wellington, the rest of it drains to the main Patterson Stem. Forcing the developer to install a road connection is something the City should have required 30 years ago but did not. The extension of the street will require a couple of box culverts and an access point to actually open up drainage to that point.

    Was none of this explained at community meetings? The water running down from Wicker Street is greater in volume and speed, it has more “head” pressure and anything else entering the system is slowed by this greater pressure. Carbonton Cove, Royal Pines, etc., etc., and others are the main source of the water flow.

    From your house there is 1200 acres or 50 million square feet of drainage area coming your way. In a storm that produces a 1 inch rain that’s about 4 million square feet of water or about a 1 million cubic inches of water that has to run past your house. Someone check my math and formulas.

    Upstream impact is Westlake Downs real problem because there is so much upstream. Finally I would say this, until someone actually walks Patterson Creek in the winter, particularly the part as you get toward old garbage dump, you are going to see a topography that is not like most of Lee County.

    1. Sandhill Pirate Avatar
      Sandhill Pirate

      Gives Free Advice,
      In one of the neighborhoods you mentioned, someone has completely cleared their property of trees and almost all shrubs. Immediately after, the neighbors behind them started having flooding and moisture issues under their house. My concrete driveway, downhill from the cleared property, has rapidly deteriorated due to the increased run off also. All due to clearing of just one lot. Vegetation makes a big difference.

  3. still giving free advice Avatar
    still giving free advice

    What you should be agitating for is a water control lake at the dead end of Victory Drive as it backs up to Carbonton Cove. You need it to catch the 10 rain event up stream before it gets to Petty Road.

  4. It is disconcerting that the City Council approves these developments when residents that have paid property taxes for years are ignored. Then you have an out-of-town developer that once his/her project is completed is never seen again.
    Lee County is lagging behind other counties in requiring containment ponds, drainage systems and other methods of controlling both erosion and flooding. Stipulating minimum lot sizes of .5 acres would do a lot to alleviate runoff. It would also maintain property values and maintain the character of much of West Sanford which is one reason people want to live in West Sanford. It doesn’t help much when West Sanford has clay soils and water just runs off.
    The only choice you have is to vote in new candidates in local elections.

  5. In addition to water runoff concerns, an explosive blast today shook our entire three story house in Brownstone. It was like dynamite in the garage.

  6. My concern here in Autumn Woods, off Cool Springs road, is run off water problem. Just like run off in new development up by West Lake Downs. We have reported our concerns to DEMLR. Bill Denton, head supervisor (stop mud) Diane Adams, Lee county, spec., Wooden persons in Sanford, Land Resources 919-707-9200. Even met with developer, Cory Schmidt at 919-418-8994. Who said, would fix run off problem and then dropped a bomb on us saying blasting would occur. We asked why as this could destroy our home foundations. There is a meeting Friday June 3rd. But no one has told us where and who is attending, except Diane Adams, Austin from Wooden’s, developer Corey Schmidt. Why isn’t our neighborhood invited? I’m upset, along with our neighbors. Where is the Inspector and is he/she going to come and inspect all our foundation, if it is okeyed to blast? I can say this in my opinion, we the home owners are being treated unfairly, not involved., ignored, and not included in any or all discussions. We want and need our DEMLR, Land Resources, Sanford City Council, Planning and development, Engineers, to take a stand for the people of Sanford. Everything is not about money! Doing the right thing and supporting Sanford residents. We need a “HERO”, fighting for our rights. Thank you

    1. Blasting of Brownstone Rock will not damage your foundation. If it did, that would mean the foundation was so flimsy that a rock’s movement not attached to your house caused your house to move.

      Brownstone rock is the red/brown rock that you see on the front of brownstones in Baltimore and NYC and Philly. They were mined in Sanford behind what is now the County Office Building between Chatham Street and St. Clair School.

      These are sedimentary rocks so they are not like granite or other large, solid rock formations. Blasting should be to form some cracks so they can more easily dig it out.

      You can always take a few photos prior to the blasting in case something really odd happens. Brownstone is found in a Triassic Basin and it’s other friends are anthracite coal.

      Your subdivision is near the top of that drainage course

      1. That stream discharges into Big Buffalo Creek. It has to pass under US 421 as well as Forestwood Park Road. I can assure you that the culverts under these roads are sized only for a 70-100 year rain event based on data from 1920 to about 1985. That’s one of the problems – what used to be a one in one hundred year rain event now happens more frequently.

        No one ever wants to hold the realtor or the builder responsible – they always want to blame the city when a house is built low near a flood zone.

        Buy FEMA flood insurance.

  7. Blastin’ rocks in the hot sun
    We fought The Glen but The Glen won
    We fought The Glen but The Glen won
    City didn’t listen ’cause growth’s number one
    We fought The Glen but The Glen won
    We fought The Glen but The Glen won
    We got clear cuttin’ and it looks so sad
    Guess the deal is done
    It’s the worst case that can be had
    We fought The Glen but The Glen won

    Right next door is a constant thud
    We fought The Glen but The Glen won
    We fought The Glen but The Glen won
    We lost our woods then got floods
    We fought The Glen but The Glen won
    We fought The Glen but The Glen won
    We lost the battle and it feels so bad
    Guess the deal is done
    We all feel that we’ve been had
    We fought The Glen but The Glen won

    1. Well written Nick! Now, all we need to do is to add the musical score. It could be the anthem for our petition signers that were pushing for a compatible plan as compared to Westlake Valley, Southern Road, Brownstone and Westlake Downs. We were concerned from the beginning about flooding, compatibility, damage to wildlife habitats and the design of the high density R10 plan.

  8. This story was linked to the one I just read about the City filing suit against The Prince Downtown. The City needs to file suit against its own mayor and council. They’ve approved all of this excessive development, knowing full well the harms it will/is causing. “We don’t regulate storm water”. Nor do they care about it, the environment, or the majority of their constituents. It’s sickening.

  9. Well, today is January 29, 2023 and we still have run off in our back yards, 5 of us. No help from state, developer, and city of Sanford. We have now been directed to city engineer of sanford. I even talked with state rep. re: redirect water into city runoff manholes, which could possibly stop water and erosion in the back yards of our 5 homes and stop clogging the creek and causing back up of debris from developer’s new home at top of hill. We all pay our taxes and we can’t even put up a fence or use our yards due to run off every time it rains. We welcome development but taking down all the trees, causing this problem Should Not be put on residents to fix. We have been told we can file a civil law suit against developer, but, why doesn’t the city make developer fix our problem that developer caused. What has happened to the law 1973 passed in NC re: sedimentation pollution control act with 5 mandatory standards. So far all in state, contractor, city have just passed it off and now we need city engineer to come out. Believe me, no one seems to care and yes m the developer has been fined and he never fixes the problem……cheaper to pay the fines. To bad there is not a really good lawyer who would take our case “pro bono.”

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