Vinfast’s arrival | The Big E-V

Vinfast’s rollout in North Carolina has been met with significant speed bumps, but local business leaders are still hopeful for a jolt to local economy

By Richard Sullins, Billy Liggett and Gordon Anderson

It’s an hour before her table will be swarmed by soon-to-be engineering graduates hungry to get in on the ground floor of largest economic investment in North Carolina’s long history, and Anna Gardner has recruited the help of a 6-foot, 3-inch-tall camel wearing a business suit to help her set up her blue Vinfast display.

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The camel, whose name is Gaylord, is the mascot for Campbell University, which on this brisk October morning is hosting more than 100 students from its School of Engineering for a career fair featuring 25 industries, from manufacturers like Caterpillar to biotech companies like Amgen, Jacobs and Pfizer.

Gardner’s appearance in Buies Creek is a good sign for North Carolina’s economy, as it’s visual assurance that the Vietnam-based electric car manufacturing company — which broke ground this summer on a massive facility in Moncure just 13 miles north of Sanford — is looking to begin the hiring process for the 7,500-plus jobs it has promised for the region. Those jobs, with an average wage of $51,000 a year, will include assembly workers, warehouse workers, operators, supervisors, technicians, office managers and other “higher ups.”

One of the biggest needs — and the reason Vinfast’s vice president of human resources for North Carolina is hanging with a camel — is engineers.

“Oh, we’re going to need all sorts of awesome engineers,” Gardner says with enthusiasm. “Much of our facility will be automated, so we’ll need a lot of manufacturing engineers and a lot of process engineers — mechanical and electrical — in order to operate.”

She says production at Vinfast could begin as early as 2025 — a year later than the original projected starting date when North Carolina Gov. Roy Cooper made the big announcement in 2022, but better late than never.

The road from that announcement to today hasn’t been the smoothest, but there’s reason for optimism. Just a few tables down from Gardner at the Campbell engineering career fair is Jerry Pedley, president of Mertek Solutions in Sanford and a longtime advocate for local economic development and industry-education collaboration.

He’s also looking for engineers, but that big, blue Vinfast display is in no way considered a threat or competition to his company.

He’s excited for the future.

“I kind of relate it to what BMW has meant for Greenville and Spartanburg [South Carolina], and what’s happened there has been absolutely amazing,” Pedley says. “I remember when that place was first built, and I’ve watched how it’s helped their economy, their communities and even their local airport. Us smaller companies like Mertek — and all the machine shops, electricians and more — are going to benefit greatly from having a major company like Vinfast here.

“It’s going to be very, very good for Lee County.”

N.C. Gov. Roy Cooper (right) and Vingroup’s vice chairman and CEO of VinFast Global, Le Thi Thu Thuy, sit in one of the electric vehicles on display during the public announcement of Vinfast’s multi-billion-dollar investment in North Carolina in March 2022. Photo courtesy of Vinfast

RIDIN’ WITH ROY

Roy Cooper has become a frequent visitor to the Sanford area this year. If you imagined that the 66-year-old North Carolina governor has fallen in love with the irresistible charm of Lee County and just can’t stay away, well, that could well be possible. After all, each of us came here from somewhere, if we go back far enough.

But there’s a lot more to the story than what meets the eye.

Cooper visited Central Carolina Community College’s Moore Center in April to take a test ride in one of the electric vehicles that VinFast plans to build at its plant now under construction in Moncure. He was at the construction site early on a Friday morning in the late-July heat to take part in groundbreaking ceremonies for the facility, and he returned in early October at CCCC’S new Moore Center to announce a new workforce initiative called AdvanceNC that will help prepare workers for high-tech manufacturing jobs.

Truth be told, he’s been keeping the road to Sanford hot, because he is personally and very heavily involved with the VinFast project, and with only 14 months left in his administration, he is also committed to taking it as far down the road as possible before he hands over the reins of power to North Carolina’s 76th governor in January 2025.

North Carolina had been trying to lure an automobile manufacturer for more than 30 years. Despite all the incentives that the Department of Commerce and even the state legislature could present, North Carolina seemed to always find itself the bridesmaid. Cooper was determined to change that when he took office in 2017.

In October of 2021, VinFast, owned by the richest man in Vietnam, Pham Nhat Vuong, began looking for a place to build its first electric vehicles manufacturing plant outside of southeast Asia. Its initial review looked at 29 sites in 12 states, including one in North Carolina.

Four representatives of the company made an unannounced visit to the location the state had offered up, an undeveloped megasite in eastern Chatham County (just a few miles north of the Lee County line) in mid-January of 2022. Met by a team of three state and local economic developers, they were said to have been “polite, but noncommittal,” leaving the local team with a sense that North Carolina was still a contender.

But when communications from the company dwindled over the next few weeks that followed and eventually stopped, economic developers assumed their chances had slipped away again.

That changed suddenly on Feb. 26 when the state was informed that VinFast would make its selection by the end of the following week. North Carolina learned its undeveloped megasite in eastern Chatham County would be competing against a comparable tract just outside Savannah, Georgia. The state, Chatham County and all its regional partners had just two weeks to pull together a detailed proposal from which the company would make its choice.

Given the secret code name “Project Blue” by the state Department of Commerce, the small team of public and private representatives who knew about the project were immediately called into action. Economic developers in Raleigh, Pittsboro, Sanford and other locations jumped to warp speed, pulling from every resource they could find to create a plan that would finally get North Carolina the win it had been looking for.

The components of that strategy included financial incentives to be offered by the state, detailed schedules of permits that would be required at various phases of construction and plans to move them along quickly, and creation of training programs by regional universities and community colleges for the 7,500 workers that the company planned to hire within two years.

The Governor’s Office would keep the skids greased to prevent any stoppages caused by red tape along the way.

On March 29, 2022, two months after that initial surprise visit, Gov. Cooper’s office announced North Carolina had been chosen as the site of Vinfast’s assembly plant. Phase 1 (a $4 billion investment) would include three main areas — electric car and bus production and assembly, EV battery production and “ancillary industries for suppliers.”

“North Carolina is quickly becoming the center of our country’s emerging, clean energy economy,” Cooper boasted in a press release that day. “VinFast’s transformative project will bring many good jobs to our state, along with a healthier environment as more electric vehicles take to the road to help us reduce greenhouse gas emissions.”

View of VinFast’s factory in Hai Phong City, Vietnam. The North Carolina facility — now under construction — is expected to bring big change and lots of new development to the eastern portion of Chatham County near the Lee County line.

SPEEDBUMPS ALONG THE WAY

Starting any business is difficult. There’s money to be raised, facilities to be obtained, permits to acquire, staff to be hired and trained and the goodwill of a community to be earned.

Imagine doing all that for a multi-billion-dollar operation, building more than 20 structures on a 2,100-acre site that is almost completely wooded, a place where there are no water or sewer services on the day when ground is broken, creating an operation that could one day employ up to 7,500 workers in a country half a world away from your corporate offices, building a product that is only beginning to emerge into international markets — and accomplish all of this in just two and a half years.

That’s what Vuong and Vingroup are up against. Standing up a large manufacturing operation from a site with no existing support structures is not an easy task.

VinFast produced its first electric automobiles in 2017 — just six years ago — and financial pages of trade publications around the world have well documented the ups and downs of this Southeast Asian industrial giant who wants to make it big in the United States.

Instead of the steady growth curve that most companies like to point shareholders to, VinFast’s start in the American market has been mixed. Reviews by Car and Driver, J.D. Powers and other trade publications were disappointing for the first VF8 models that arrived in the U.S. in March, consistently speaking of a bouncy, noisy ride, a bland sound system that constantly produces white noise and a problem in the model’s electronic control system of such a magnitude that it required a purging and replacement with new upgraded software.

Other issues, more immediately fixable, are more of a systemic nature, many of them emanating from the company’s limited time of existence. The most expensive item in an electrically powered vehicle is its rechargeable battery, a means of storing energy that eventually goes bad after repeated recharging. VinFast proposed to get around that issue by offering battery “subscriptions” to its customers instead of selling them as part of the overall sticker price, helping to keep retail prices for the vehicles between $40,000 to $55,000.

But when the company really looked at the numbers, it found that even those estimates were too low. New advertisements on its website indicated that the battery was now included as part of the vehicle’s sticker price, but the VinFast VF 8 and VF 9 models are struggling to remain competitive with recent price cuts made by its greatest competitor, Tesla. Prices for the two models, however, are now estimated to be closer to $60,000.

There are still larger questions about the company’s long-term prospects. Since the Chatham County project was announced in March of 2022, VinFast has been hemorrhaging cash, despite seeing record receipts coming into its bank accounts.

When trading went public at the end of August, it went as high as $82 per share. But the bottom has dropped out since then, closing during the last week of October at $4.93. New companies, especially very large ones, often report big losses during their early years (think Amazon or FedEx).

But even in those cases, stockholders knew where things stood at the end of each financial quarter through the reports that companies were required to file. Despite going public in August with a few million of its 2.3 billion shares in August, VinFast is still a foreign company created outside the United States and therefore not subject to American rules for public disclosures to those who own its shares.

Thus, only Vuong has a complete picture of the financial health of his company, even as North Carolina (which promised up to $1.5 billion in incentives) and Chatham County have a lot of skin in this game.

Project Blue, for all its assurances and ceremonies with dignitaries from the governor’s office on down, will remain a crap shoot for years to come.

Anna Gardner, the vice president of human resources for Vinfast’s North Carolina operation, talks to engineering students at a career fair hosted by Campbell University’s School of Engineering in Buies Creek on Oct. 19. Gardner said Vinfast has begun recruiting engineers as part of its expected 7,500-plus workforce. Photo by Billy Liggett

WHAT’S IN IT FOR LEE COUNTY?

Fortuitously, Lee County’s commissioners had purchased a 22-acre tract of land adjacent to CCCC the previous summer, with hopes of turning its five buildings into more space for the college. The immediate availability of hundreds of thousands of square feet in an indoor facility, along with a proven track record of customized industrial training offered by the community college system, turned out to be one of the most important tools in the state’s economic development toolbox. Dr. Lisa Chapman and her team at the college knew how to use that tool effectively.

But it was what the City of Sanford brought to the deal that may well have gotten the ball across the goal line. Water is a critical component for any developing industry, particularly those focused on heavy manufacturing like VinFast, and Sanford has it in abundance.

Four years ago, then-Mayor Chet Mann and the Sanford City Council made a critical decision to build a water line that will help bring service to the VinFast site, a call that one day may be considered as the single most important determining factor in VinFast’s decision to come to central North Carolina.

The northeastern end of Lee County, and just across the Deep River into Chatham County, had long been a desert for water and sewer services, and no water means no development.

Building on Mann’s Open for Business platform put forth when he was first elected in 2013, the city leveraged grants from the state, the GoldenLeaf Foundation and a budget allocation of $3.9 million in 2018 to build water and sewer lines from Sanford to Pittsboro, as well as a second loop to provide services to the Raleigh Executive Jetport in Lee County and the Moncure area. Mann said, “It was a huge leap of faith by the city council, but boy, did it ever pay off.”

The deal negotiated on behalf of the city by Mann and City Manager Hal Hegwer does more than provide Chatham County with the water they need. In addition to the sale of water and sewer services and in exchange for their provision, Sanford will get 20 percent of all property taxes that Chatham County collects from every home, business or industry that connects to the water line.

Even better, Sanford will continue to receive those funds for the next 50 years after the line goes into service, meaning millions of dollars that will flow annually into the city’s coffers every year for the next half-century, funds that can be spent to improve city parks or create new ones, provide more housing options for low-income residents, create structured offerings that support teenagers and children through afterschool programs, or address any of the other issues that a growing micropolitan city like Sanford must do in order to grow.

The mayor said the costs for the water and sewer infrastructure needed to connect the new plant site to the city’s system and then over to Pittsboro could exceed $135 million. But the city’s lucky number came up again, Mann said. The state will pick up the tab for almost all of it — $132 million, leaving the remaining $3 million to be split between Sanford and Pittsboro. Sanford’s share of the entire project could come to be just $1.5 million, itself another huge win for the city.

Michael Smith is the Chatham County Economic Development Corporation’s president and as such was not only a big part of attracting VinFast to the site in Moncure, but also remains integral to the process of actually standing the business up.

“One of the many things Chatham County did to prepare for this moment was we made sure in the event that we won one of these huge projects, that would kick into action what we call a small area plan,” he said. “We listened to developers and homeowners and landowners in the Moncure area, and it went from a situation where a lot of people had a lot of heartburn to the most recent meeting we’ve had, where the neighbors literally stood up and clapped.”

Smith acknowledged both that growth is already happening in the area around the VinFast site — “It’s really exciting to see what’s happening to that entire U.S. 1 corridor between Pfizer and Apex,” he said — and that there have been some hiccups in VinFast’s path.

“Yes, the project has started a little slower than we expected,” he said. “But (VinFast) has a $100 million investment there, so they’re committed. Every other week we have a virtual meeting led by the North Carolina Department of Environmental Quality on that project where we discuss the progress and the next steps, and there are usually at least 20 people in those meetings, sometimes 30.”

Referencing some of the negative headlines, Smith said, “Any startup is going to have people throwing rocks. If you read some of those early ugly reviews, you’d be scared to even get in (a VinFast vehicle). But, you know, recalls — with an electric vehicle it’s typically going to be a software patch. They’re trending in a different direction now.”

Prior to his economic development work in Chatham County, Smith held a similar role in Lee County, giving him a unique perspective on the VinFast project.

“It’s a lot of fun to see all the exciting things that are happening for both counties,” he said. “I think one of the things that ties us and this project together is Central Carolina Community College, and there’s a lot of shared private sector support. I’m grateful for the team I used to be a part of and the way it’s all come together for all of us.”

33 responses to “Vinfast’s arrival | The Big E-V”

  1. Mike Focke Avatar
    Mike Focke

    I’ll believe this is real when I see the early employees driving around in VinFast cars. Or see positive comparative reviews of their cars. I watch for EVs and I just don’t see them around anywhere. I don’t see that VinFast has signed up to the national charging standard either. I think they missed the window for early adopters and now will have to compete on cost, features, service and reputation with established brands, many of whom are already struggling with their better reviewed EV offerings.

    1. V Avatar
      V

      Sanford isn’t a good market for EVs: too poor, too rural, too Republican, and people have to drive too far every day for an EV to be practical. EVs are for cities and inner suburbs, at least for now. That doesn’t mean VinFast won’t find a niche in the EV market somewhere, just not in Sanford.

      1. Just Saying Avatar
        Just Saying

        Sanford isn’t the market. Just going to be manufactured here. If they actually complete the plant

      2. Mike Focke Avatar
        Mike Focke

        As a second car, EVs work amazingly well. Have a 50 mile commute or just make several stops in town, no problem. My son uses his for commuting from Raleigh to Clayton or Raleigh to Sanford. Big new Supercharger station just off US1 near Starbucks and Lowes food store for Teslas. Ford is going to put chargers at every dealers, BP just bought $100M worth of chargers to be installed at their gas stations. Most just plug in at their house overnight. Not as practical for most renters.

    2. Hung Pham Avatar
      Hung Pham

      I ha

    3. Hung Pham Avatar
      Hung Pham

      I have been driving the VF8 since March of this year. The car has almost 11K miles on it today. It is such a fun car to drive and believe me, it turns heads everywhere it goes. People always wonder what kind of car it is as it looks really good from both front and back. I charge it mainly at home but have no problem charging at many charge stations from Electrify America to EVgo and others. The assisted driving feature on the car is top notch. As a matter of fact, it already saved me from 2 possible accidents already when it assisted me to switch lane quickly and stay within the new lane so smoothly at 75 mph!

  2. Just Saying Avatar
    Just Saying

    https://youtu.be/DF7kaLTsNHQ?si=mYwKHh-QEOtvDFkf

    Not sure how they will turn out

  3. Nam Nguyen Avatar
    Nam Nguyen

    I am a VinFast VF8 owner from Sacramento, California, since 3/18/2023. I totally agree with comment from Hung Pham. If you want to know the true about the car, just check out all my videos in my YouTube channels: https://youtu.be/eRK9JWZqzhs?si=3-t36NkR2JNOUML-

  4. cody wyatt Avatar
    cody wyatt

    Electric vehicles are NOT what they claim to be. Take the Ford Lightning Platinum for example- they claim 320 miles per charge, yet, here are the results we got from a friend: towing a boat and a light one, it got only 125 miles. Using heater when frigid cold, got only 125 miles. Using air conditioner when hot, got only 115 miles. Caught in traffic jam with either heater or a/c on, did NOT last more then 95 minutes! And then there were multiple charging fees and none the same. At one point, he paid $60 for a 25 minute charge. With a/c running on trip home, he barely with boat (light aluminum) made the 120 mile distance. So, that costs a whopping FIFTY CENTS per mile! At say $3 per gallon, my 2014 Tacoma SR5 costs me only 15 cents per miles, and I was towing a large heavy Ranger Bass Boat with a 250 hp motor on it. As for traffic jams with a/c on, I can sit there per HOUR in my Tacoma and use only 5/8 of a gallon per hour, regardless of how high a/c is on. No brainer her ladies and gentlemen. NO ELECTRIC nightmares for me. And when out of fuel, I don’t have to be desperate finding a place to charge it. I simply open up a one gallon can of gas, and I am good for another 20 miles.

  5. Tommy Keller Avatar
    Tommy Keller

    From everything I have read about the company, how it is being run at home, the engineering flaws, the safety issues, and lack of understanding western business practices, if Vinfast survives past 2 years it will be a miracle.

    1. V Avatar
      V

      What don’t they understand about Western business practices? From what I can tell generally about Vietnam, it’s been the new off-shoring locale for Capitalist power-house countries for years. My favorite memory of Hanoi several years ago was passing a billboard for CapitalLand — the Singaporean shopping-mall company.

    2. HUNG V PHAM Avatar
      HUNG V PHAM

      Not sure what you read about the company and all the negative things you wrote but Vingroup wouldn’t be where they are today if they haven’t earned the trust of the consumers in that country. What “engineering flaws” or “safety issues” are you talking about? Would you please elaborate and enlighten me as I have been driving the car the past 8 months in San Diego, California, and I have yet found any of such?!

  6. Kevin Pham Avatar
    Kevin Pham

    I own a VF8 for 7 months putting on 6,000 miles. The car is literally run by computer. Of course, some hick ups but My hat off for a company that is only in existence for 6 years that can build such a solid car and sells car in the most stringent market, the US market. It has been am smooth sail for me in general. For those that wanted to switch to EV, don’t judge the book by its cover, take a test drive and I am almost certain that you will like it. This is the most advanced built even compared to Tesla it it’s early days.

  7. Natalie Avatar
    Natalie

    Owner from California here since March with 8,500 miles on odometers. The car feels solid, the ride feels smooth, and the software has been dramatically improved.

    Plus, VF’s customer service is just top-notch.

  8. CM Avatar
    CM

    Vinfart is the biggest scam in automotive history. They have no engineering capability (everything is bought from Chinese and Indian service providers), no management experience (all expat managers left because of toxic company culture) and the cars are overpriced with many errors.
    The corrupt mother company Vingroup is backed by the Vietnamese communist party and has stolen lots of land from the Vietnamese people to build apartments and hotels with inflated prices.

    1. HUNG V PHAM Avatar
      HUNG V PHAM

      You are just sour grapes because you happened to be on the LOSING side of a war that ended almost 50 years ago, aren’t you? LOL. “Communist”? Well, that “Communist” country happens to be one of the most reliable allies America has in Asia right now. Wake up and face reality! “VinHomes” is probably the most trusted housing developer in Vietnam as its name associates with quality as evidenced by the value appreciation its buyers have enjoyed at any of VinHomes’ developments in Vietnam. VinFast is no exclusion. I AM driving a VF8 for 8 months and I KNOW so don’t try to say differently when you don’t even own any of VinFast’s cars!

  9. Sergeant Stadanko AKA Lardass Avatar
    Sergeant Stadanko AKA Lardass

    The real controversy here isn’t if the company will actually make it, considering the flop that all EVs have become, but rather the facts that cobalt is very limited and that literal child slaves in the Congo are mining it for your precious cars and rechargeable battery devices. So, all your virtue signaling by driving an ev is in reality your overwhelming support for child slave labor in the mines. Congratulations Sanford! You’re living up to your county’s namesake.
    👏 👏 👏

  10. J H Avatar
    J H

    Those Vinfast seeders are laughable. Yeah I drive Vinfast car all the way to Mars and back and have zero issue.

    1. HUNG V PHAM Avatar
      HUNG V PHAM

      Nobody is THAT stupid to say (or to accuse others say) that the VinFast cars have no issue, simply because issues are EXPECTED for a brand new model from a brand new company. What we VF8 owners are saying is that the car has no major issues and whatever issues it has, it’s correctable with software updates which we have gone through a few versions from the start. “Seeders”? Owning a VinFast car is now labeled “seeders”? LOL. In that case, who hires you to badmouth VinFast and its buyers, I wonder?!

      1. V Avatar
        V

        These trolls hang out here for free, just trying to make people angry. They are basically just a bunch of idiots.

      2. J H Avatar
        J H

        No major issue? Screen go black while driving is no major issue?
        Cars lost power while driving is no major issue?
        Not seeder? Let me ask you this, how well is Vinfast car reception by Vietnamese community in US, which eager to support a product of its kind? None, zip, nada! They know Vinfast is a crappy commie pos. Only a handful of you own the cars.
        Badmouth? It is the truth. How well is Vinfast cars sells so far? A few hundred. Duh!

      3. HUNG V PHAM Avatar
        HUNG V PHAM

        LOL. Did you dig those “issues” from Tesla’s history or something? Because those are the exact problems Tesla used to have when they sold their cars the first few years! As far as sales, thanks to the idiots like yourself who love to spread rumors, in addition to being a new brand from.. “Commie” country like Vietnam that sales will take time. How long did it take Tesla to take off? What about Toyota, Honda, Hyundai, Kia.. when they first sold their first cars in the U.S.? Use your brain once in a while, won’t you? And support from the Vietnamese communities? How many of them are readily spending 50K on a car, yourself included? LOL

      4. JH Avatar
        JH

        Sure Vietnamese not readily spend 50K on a pos Vinfast. They spend money on Lexus, BMW, Mercedes. Oh by the way my 2023 Mercedes GLC Pinnacle is incredible, oh and my 2021 Tesla MY is top notch, not a single issue so far
        Oh don’t compare Tesla, Toyota Huyndai with Vinfast it is stupid.
        Comparable should be Lucid, Fisker or Rivian. How well those sells compare to Vinfast. Laughable eh?

      5. V Avatar
        V

        Don’t listen to JH: no one who lives anywhere near Sanford drives a Mercedes.

      6. HUNG V PHAM Avatar
        HUNG V PHAM

        Hahaha! Good one!

      7. HUNG V PHAM Avatar
        HUNG V PHAM

        How do you drive a 2023 Mercedes and are on food stamps at the same time? LOL

      8. J H Avatar
        J H

        Your argument show how low Vinfast seeders are. I stop here, not just because you win the argument, because whenever you open you $&%*, it makes Vietnamese look bad to the reader.

      9. HUNG V PHAM Avatar
        HUNG V PHAM

        LOL. Guess “Mercedes” doesn’t go too well with foodstamps huh?

  11. Sergeant Stadanko AKA lardass Avatar
    Sergeant Stadanko AKA lardass

    https://youtu.be/CIWvk3gJ_7E?si=DeJxgUaS4hRim-pX

    Any moron driving an electric vehicle needs to watch the above link. Vinfast is not a green company nor is any other ev manufacturer, they are slave owners. Period.

    1. HUNG V PHAM Avatar
      HUNG V PHAM

      Then let’s work to improve the working condition of the Cobalt miners instead of boycotting the whole EV industry because it should be clear cut to you that electricity is so much cleaner for the earth than petrol.

      1. V Avatar
        V

        These guys don’t really care about cobalt miners in Africa, they just don’t like EVs because they associate them with Democrats.

  12. Sergeant Stadanko AKA lardass Avatar
    Sergeant Stadanko AKA lardass

    https://youtu.be/ff_qrTyjr1o?si=KKQHty5B3tirX1UH

    Here is an entire presentation about the slavery and horrible conditions of cobalt mining in the co go for your precious ev’s.
    You people supporting the ev industry should be horse whipped in public.

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