A would-be speeding ticket in Lee County became 30 months of supervised probation and 160 hours of community service for a self-proclaimed “sovereign citizen” last week.
A Cary Man [name not published … read editor’s note at end of the story] was pulled over by a state trooper in Lee County for speeding a few months back, and instead of cooperating and providing his license and registration, the man rolled down his window about an inch and told the officer he wouldn’t comply. According to reports, he also advised the officer to “get back-up.”
This led to multiple officers forcing the man out of his car and arresting him for resisting an officer.
The man claimed to belong to the sovereign citizens movement, which according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, holds “truly bizarre, complex anti-government beliefs” and believes that “they get to decide which laws to obey and which to ignore … and they don’t think they sould have to pay taxes.” According to the SPLC, sovereigns are clogging up the courts with indecipherable filings and “when cornered, many of them lash out in rage, frustration and, in the most extreme cases, acts of deadly violence.”
In May 2010, for example, a father-son team of sovereigns murdered two police officers with an assault rifle when they were pulled over on the interstate while traveling through West Memphis, Ark.
In statements during the man’s sentencing last week in the Lee County Courthouse, Judge Paul Holcombe and Assistant D.A. Mike Beam both echoed the sentiment that the whole incident was clogging up the court.
“This incident was largely unnecessary,” Beam said. “We’re a nation of laws, and [the patrolmen] were just doing their jobs.”
“You were charged with doing 80 in a 65,” Judge Holcombe told the defendant during his sentencing. “If you’d just come to court, you would have paid a fine and walked out. Instead you have found yourself charged with criminal offenses, and now you have the potential of having significant effects on your driver’s license.
“Your actions have put me and the prosecutor in a position where it’s hard for us to do what we would have for other people charged with doing 80 in a 65.”
The defendant claimed he’d lost feeling in his hands due to the tightness of the handcuffs during his arrest, but said in court he did not plan to appeal his sentence. He sounded remorseful in his statement.
“It’s been a spiritual learning experience for me,” he said. “I learned a lot about myself. I don’t want these guys (law enforcement) to not like me. If they see my car upside down, I want them to violate the Fourth Amendment and bust my window out.”
Editor’s Note: The man’s name was kept from this report for multiple reasons. First, the purpose of the article is not to out the man or ruin his personal or professional life. Second, it doesn’t sound like a smart idea to anger a self-proclaimed sovereign citizen. Email me if you disagree. Cheers.
A truly bizarre (mis)understanding of the Constitution. Particularly that last remark he had about the 4th Amendment (Unreasonable Searches and Seizures, warrants upon probable cause) applied to a rescue attempt.
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A prime example of why I recommend that you let me negotiate your traffic ticket for you. Lawyers get good deals on traffic tickets not because we raise a fuss, but because the DA cannot try every traffic ticket… but they CAN try ONE. Your best defense is usually to be one of the masses, not to be “that guy” that deserves the DA’s special attention.
You’re actually quoting the Southern Poverty Law Center?? The SPLC is an extremist, illegitimate and anti-American organization…
Further, anyone who uses the term “Sovereign Citizen,” which is an oxymoron (i.e., conflict in terms). You cannot be the sovereign people (the true government) and be a citizen (a paper fiction in law) at the same time – and honestly, it’s complete ignorance to think so!
Good job, you told this citizen who’s boss! Now that you pounded the poor man into submission and caused him severe hardship for no valid reason when he hurt no one, you made him see that he has no rights as an American Citizen. Good job! Go communism. *COMMUNIST FIST*
The takeaway is that Americans now live in a tyrannical state and have no sovereign rights. The mafia of government enforcers will take you by force, kidnap you, injure you, and then abduct you if you try to “resist” after “breaking” one of their “laws”.
Several rules that this poor man did not understand, who still thought that America was a free country:
1. Never talk to the police. Only tell them, “Am I being detained or arrested?” If the answer is yes, then only say “I want to talk to an attorney”. If no, then ask politely, “Am I free to go?”
2. Police are backed by the government, who does not care about ourcivil rights. No man has Constitutional Rights in America, unless he has enough money to hire a good enough attorney (millions) and is not in the wrong place at the wrong time.
3. All laws must be followed, not because they are fair, moral or just, but because the enforcers have full rights to violate 100% of the constitutional rights of any person, and it is too dangerous to defy them and stand up for your rights as a citizen or human being.
4. Record every interaction, if at all possible. Better if you can record without being obvious, such as from a mounted dashcam that is pointed in the correct direction.
It is really easy to get yourself caught up by saying the wrong thing. Which can be very close to the right thing but one word off and you’re in trouble. I’ve been doing this a long time and have been pretty successful at it. There was a serious learning curve at first when I didn’t know my stuff. I went to jail a few times before I knew how to derail DA’s and Judge’s. There is one thing everyone has to remember. Don’t ever go into court alone. You have to have someone with you to witness what goes on in case a judge or prosecutor violates your rights or lies to you in open Court. (8% of the time you need a witness on your side who is smart enough to know when your rights have been violated or a Judge lies to you.
The best thing to do is to get a judge to contradict him or herself. Here is an example.
When a judge read the charges against you, ask to see the presentment. This means the paper he or she is reading from which is prepared by the DA, City Attorney or Prosecutor. When the Bailiff hands it to you read it all the way through as quickly as possible. When your done, you’ll notice there is a line for a signature on it on the last page. That is for the DA, City Attorney, or Prosecutor’s signature who is swearing under the penalty of Perjury the foregoing is true and correct.
It is never signed. Very, very rarely if ever. (That’s because it is under penalty of Perjury) The chances of The DA, City Attorney etc.. of being there and witnessing your wrongdoing is extremely rare. It’s not completely impossible but it would be fairly odd for them to be there to witness.
So the DA etc. doesn’t have first hand knowledge. He or she is relying on hearsay evidence from the Cop. Cops lie, Not all of them but a great many do. So if you bring in 40 witnesses that say you were in Paris France with them and they have pictures to prove it with the dates on the photos showing you were in France with them, You couldn’t have been robbing a bank in Pasadena California. But the Cop says he saw you robbing a bank in Pasadena and the DA believed him and swore under penalty of perjury that you were robbing a bank in Pasadena when you were in France – The DA is in big Trouble.
It is Jail actually prison for 10 years. So they never ever sign the presentment.
So after you see it and see there is no signature on it. Hold it up in front of the judge and ask, “Is this a valid cause of action against me?” (The judge will say yes because you wouldn’t be there if he didn’t think so.
You flip the paper to the last page and show there is no signature on it and say Sorry Judge there is no signature on it – It’s not a valid cause of action. You just lied to me in open court. Tell them to have a nice day and walk out and go home.
A judge can’t lie to you in open court. You may want to make sure the court reporter is taking everything down by quietly asking the court reporter just before you address the judge – (is this on the record?) – Just to make sure. The record has to show everything you say and the judge says.
It will show the judge said it was valid when you proved it wasn’t. The Judge lied in open court – You get to go home the hearing is over – the judge blew it.
Someone has to swear you committed a crime and they are going to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. If all they have is a cop saying you were going 200 MPH in your 73 VW Bug. They’re not signing it. 98% of the time they don’t sign them. That’s because they don’t thing anyone will notice because most people don’t ask to see it.
You can’t have a lawyer or public defender and do this. You have to represent yourself. Lawyers are members of the BAR Association. BAR stands for “British Accreditted Regency” and all Lawyers have to expatriate themselves from the United States to become lawyers. They are no longer American Citizens. They are now “Foreign Agents”. So is the Judge, so is the DA and so is the Public Defender and even your private Attorney. ALL OF THEM members of the BAR
Are you going to get a fair trial? HELL NO YOU”RE NOT GOING TO GET A FAIR TRIAL! Everyone in Court is on the other team. NO ONE is on your side not even your own Lawyer!!!
The only person on your side is YOU!
Learn how to defend yourself. Study Law, I did for 10 years. It’s not that hard. It takes a while to get a grip on it for a while but after about 6 months things start falling into place and it gets a lot easier.
There is a program called Jurisdictionary you can get online. It’s about $250 but a lawyer in Florida who is a very successful Lawyer teaches you how to defend yourself in Court and it’s a really good course and it only takes a few days to learn it. There are a few DVD’s I think and a CD or two.
I bought this course after about a year studying law but loaned it to someone and never got it back.
You are the best person to defend you, you are the only one who knows exactly what happened!!
Sorry, I meant 98% of the time. Excuse the typo’s please.